I see their is now CVS access to the survex source. I tried checking the 1.1 tree and received the following message: [balister@nemesis survex_cvs]$ cvs -z3 -d:pserver:cvsuser@cvs.survex.com:/usr/data/cvs co -rsurvex-1_1 survex cvs [server aborted]: cannot write /usr/data/cvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: Permission denied Have I jumped the gun on this? Philip