spud beasts

[Wookey]

On Mon 09 Oct, Julian Todd wrote:

> PS What's wrong with Java apart from it's easy to write
> and you don't need to be a professional GTK programmer
> to do it?

The main problem is that normal users can't install it, and even if they can,
running the applications requires a fair amount of runicness. I've had great
difficulty installing it myself and I'm supposed to know what I'm doing. None
of this is Julian's fault, but it is a real problem for people who want to
use tunnel. I also suspect that when I finally get it going, I'm going to
find it's hopelessly slow on my machine.

Now of course I haven't found it easy to compile aven, chasm or potrot
either, but the pre-compiled versions of chasm have been OK and I only have
to download a few meg of stuff to get them going, not the 70Mb I need for
java. Maybe once OSes all come with a JVM built-in then things will be
dramatically improved, but right now it's not really practical.

None of this is to diss julian's software, which I have been impressed
with. 

Wookey
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